Match info
| Date | League | Winner | Loser | Score | Type | |||||
| 2004-02-16 | STA Platinum | KAR | Klan Karnij | 260.95 +5.95 |
TTK | Trained To Kill | 192.12 -5.95 |
35-5 45-20 | ss_nyx_l ss_nyx_l |
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Writeup:
KAR over TTK
GG [TTK] considering the heavy ovo & massive server probs. Round 1 we shut them out. Held the flag un-touched for the last 20 minutes. Round 2 [TTK] snuck one out the back. What else to say? gj KAR & fuck the losers that quit because they got benched `ala taco, curve & croniK. You guys make me fucking sick.
BlindSide
ps. Don't potshot td or injex.
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[TTK]Metal_Zepp
elin-Rf- 68.98.66.221 |
you guys should be ashamed of yourselves....
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AGT-Shady
68.90.174.166 |
Note the bullshit in the write-up vs. us the night before.
/me thinks hallucinagens are involved.
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PedroSpic
67.171.196.129 |
hmmmm...TTK should be ashamed too then...same with AGT..and any other clans we tend to shut out..O gets frustraded starts pot shotting..then i go yard D and u get destroyed..simple..anywho ggs and gl..Im not one to talk shit
KAR DONT POST HERE THANKS
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CroNiK
68.49.76.227 |
bind mouth stfu
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pedrospic
67.171.196.129 |
lmao @ cronik
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BlindSide
67.171.207.148 |
Note Shady riding my nuts. Move along. [TTK] & AGT need not be bitter. Possibly play one another? Just massive ovo all match long? Neither of you can cap anyways.
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[TTK]Metal_Zepp
elin-Rf- 68.98.66.221 |
Kar... its gonna suck to be you guys when you fight a clan that will actually do the same back to you :P I expect tons of flames to result from it... but it will make me smile. You had it comin. Blindside... your clan is a great clan, i like most of the guys in it... and they are pritty good. But... not THAT good :). So dont go around acting like shutting us out was really a tough feat when you're team got out one lucky cap as well. We had 6 flag returns on d... r1... says something about our guys as well.. 3 of witch were in our main ramp room. You had 2 engis both round.. cause thats the only thing that worked. You went to a strat with one engi... we capped... so you went back to your 2 engi strat. You had one engi that just went to yard over and over again everytime he died to spam emps. Not to mention our offense did not shoot your offense back once... EXCEPT.. round 1 where cheese got tired of not shooting back and went d medic for about 2 minutes... DURING those 2 minutes he went d medic.. (reminding you this is only 1 d med.. not 4). We returned our flag from about 5 ft from the FD in the ramp room. SO dont tell me ovo doesnt make a difference for our offense. I rather lose and lose with dignity than retaleate and play like you guys do. It's just fucked up. GG. You guys are probably better... but thats not really that good.. so stfu.
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[TTK]5p
24.159.17.37 |
G
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that is all it is folks...
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[TTK]Metal
68.98.66.221 |
5p stfu.. if there was anyone that would have talked a whole mouthfull of shit after this match.. it woulda been you.
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Gooster
68.97.74.52 |
Sorry for posting ahead of time pedro...just wanna clear something up.
1st off, great game it was loads of fun from my side of the screen.
2nd...shhh theres clans in Silver with more balls when it comes to ovso/strats than you guys are showing, even if you dont like it stop whining please =] find some way to counter it, its part of the game...or used to be atleast =/
3rd...the 2 engi strat was not practiced and was created in prematch for us to adjust to the high pings in round 1 due to our server going down, round 2 we ran our normal strat at the start and then realized the other one worked better and changed back like any smart defense should/would do.
thats all, again GG it was fun.
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bewb-
68.122.69.214 |
rofl you guys are lucky i am benched
:)
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PedroSpic
67.171.196.129 |
no we are lucky u are benched...get it right bewb :(
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bewb-
68.122.69.214 |
burneD
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BlindSide
67.171.207.148 |
Seriously. Get off my cock. We are ashamed. We're ashamed we let you cap. And don't act like returning a flag was a huge deal. It's pretty easy when you drop back 6 D to return a flag. As far as teams doing shit back to us ...? Have you watched all our HLTV's ? Ohh I'm sure you have. I'm sure you know my clan, you know me, you know fucking shit. Nearly every match we get into there's some ovo along the way. For instance, our encounter with PF. a few weeks ago. Did we bitch & moan about it ? No. We play through it like anyone with half a cock would. If someone fucks with me when I'm on o. You will get fucked back. That stands true for every single member on my team. I enforce it. I live by it. It's what tfc is. Over-coming adversity & winning as a team. Why don't you pull your fucking tampon out Metal Zepplin? You know fucking shit about battles we've been in or bullshit we've dealt with in matches. I suggest you shut your mouth and get in the know before going on another one of your whiny crusades.
And since when is 2 sg's illegal? That server running off of 5p's microwave was bullshit. My, pedro's & weside's ping were all +150. The core of the defense. I don't hang around all Sunday to play a match & lose. We adjusted our d in pre-match & we had a different member playing pack soldier whom had never played there. I guess next time we play you band of pussies I'll ok my strats with Schizo before hand. Or should I seek your guidance ? The actual strat was 2 soldiers. 1 roaming fr. We played AGT the night before with this strat. It was a complete shutout. That flag never seen daylight. We used 2 soldiers in a pre-STA scrim vs. [s2] with the same success. I adjusted the strat on the fly for our match against [TTK]. I figured heavy pings weren't in our favor. If that's grounds for dispute, by all means get the fuck on disputing. In my honest opinion, you were outplayed & outsmarted from all angles. Wh00000py to your 6 flag returns. Hooray for you 1 cap in 60 minutes of play. If anything was attributed to luck, it was definitley that.
By the way, cheese's d medic was just an isolated incident. But I'm sure you went over everyone on your offense's demos correct? For both rounds I assume, correct? I doubt you did, what you've done is what most clan leaders do. You make a snap judgement call, based on what they tell you in your private channel. He said, she said. There was plenty of ovo on [TTK]'s behalf both rounds. Killu, chasing injex while he was in the process of capping. He dies, our offy loses 30 seconds of prime relay time while we wait for the flag to be capped. Don't play the innocence card like AGT did. You douchebags also gassed our spawn much like AGT. How sportingly! Nothing pisses me off more then some no talent asshole gassing spawns. Why don't you take your weak ass tactics somewhere else? Can't you play straight up ? I'll tell you what it is. It's frustration. You can't cap, you can't touch, you find something else to do. You become pre-occupied with fucking up the match. How many times have I seen it in this game ? You've been playing this game longer then me, tell me how many times you've seen it.
" I rather lose and lose with dignity than retaleate and play like you guys do "
Don't even try & slide that shit by me. You know how many time's I've played [TTK] ? You guys get down & dirty with the best of em. I still have a demo from an STA Silver title match I will never forget. This demo is probably 2 years old. I was in [eXeL] @ the time. openfire_l 9v9. Silver was loaded with good teams. That match went back & forth so many times. Plays pretty clean for the most part. [TTK]'s a cap up most the time or were tied the entire match. About 5 minutes to go. [TTK]'s o is stalled & were pulling your flag. Guess what happens ? Your offy starts chasing like mad men. Bobbel drops back on D and goes hwguy at the Y. [TTK] now runs 1 sg 2hwgs, 2sols & 1 demo with chasing offy to turtle to victory. That was the first time I ever played against [TTK]. From then on, I deemed you "Turtle to Kill". And since then, I've probably faced off with you guys 10 times. All wins. Never cutting you any slack along the way. I respect 1 person all time from [TTK]. He know's who he is & that's all that matters to me. Don't sit here & preach to me Zep, about playing clean or winning like this or winning like that. You're nothing but a hypocrit in my mind.
As far as winning goes in KAR. You've mumbled on about some more stupid bullshit. Telling us were not "that good" or beating [TTK] wasn't much of a "feat". Who the hell do you think you are? Once again, you know jack about my squad, yet you continue to make assumptions.
1. We know were not that good. We've had our ups & downs. We've won matches. We've lost matches. We've lost players. We've had huge fights. It's all part of the game. That's why we love it. KAR nowadays is more of a family then a clan. The vast majority of our members come from the last resurrection or the one before. Some are even original -}KAR{- members. The rest of the guys are cool people we've picked up based on referral from core KAR members ie. myself, pedro, wes, silkkz etc..basically, people that we've clanned with somewhere along the way, we like to have them come play with us also. Not based on skill alone, but friendships moreso. That's what I want my clan experience to be about. Not winning. Not being good. Not being on the inter-web TOP15. Playing with friends. We all hang out on vent or play other games with each other, just chill for the most part, realizing that this is just a game & no one else's opinion, for instance YOURS, really fucking matters. We know our skill will only take us so far, if we wanna be real good, we might actually take this game serious like you. But I'd rather have fun, win or lose in this lax atmosphere that is KAR, then losing like a bitter chump ie. yourself. It's pretty funny you gotta look to other clans to try & humble us with some ovo, hoping we'll flame the fuck outta them. We could care less. We'll shoot back & laugh about it after the match. Your definition of "good" in TFC differs from mine. You base everything off of wins/losses/scores/caps/returns whatever. That's your twisted view, not mine. So don't staple me or my clan with your judgements. I don't like you. I never have. I don't wanna know you or your clan. I will be very blunt. Stay out of my way & I will stay out of yours. You come here to flame me or my clan and I will ride this bitch till it's locked. You know where I idle. If you've got something to say, say it to me. Be a man about it. I don't take kindly to your ways of bashing us here. I used to really dig the flame wars, now I'm content with proving everything you say wrong and making you look dumb. The fact that you can't spell for shit would lead me to believe that you are infact "slow". But I will give you the benefit of the doubt & shrug it off to the fact that you were born & raised a dumbfuck.
What else is there to say? I thought 2 weeks ago we had a stellar match with [TTK] on sd_l in CAL. One of your members (Fuel) didn't take it so lightly for some reason & made some retarded comments, other then that, Schizo told me well played & always a pleasure. You can reference my write-up from that match if you'd like.
"GG [TTK]. Always a good group of guys to go against. Shutdown_l sucks btw, good riddance.
BlindSide- "
Haha. Ya. It's amazing what kind of respect you get when you don't instigate problems eh? Despite my lack of love for [TTK] I swallow my pride & say gg along with all my members. Why? Cause you played us straight up and I appreciate that. Monday night was a different story. Don't try & plead the 5th or try and make us out to be the bad guys. [TTK] offensive members are solely responsible for dealing themselves a bad hand, not me, not my clan. Till next time ...
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PedroSpic
67.171.196.129 |
^^10 min. later...and the outcome DESTROYED
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MasterJeff
66.122.69.58 |
" We used 2 soldiers in a pre-STA scrim vs. [s2] with the same success."
LIAR, you didn't shut us out. Anyways, damn I can't belive I read all that!
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BlindSide
67.171.207.148 |
lol jeff. You seen our flag, when i dropped for 10 minutes. Both caps came courtesty of no one being home @ bottom spiral. Regardless, that was a friendly with the good people @ [s2]. They're actually fun to play against...go figure?
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Curve
64.32.196.7 |
wow meany, and i thought u loved meh :-/ bs
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Hellsy
204.52.215.101 |
Wow, so it isn't only AGT that gets gayed. Shocker.
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[TTK]Metal_Zepp
elin-RF- 68.98.66.221 |
too much to read.. fuck that... blindside... JUST TELL YOUR FUCKING CLAN TO STOP THE OVO LIKE FAGGOTS. we didnt shoot back because its not how we play. we sorta wait the whole round for you guys to catch on and stop shooting us as well... you didnt. the point i was trying to make about returning the flag is. we only had one med go d for like a minute when we returned it. the entire round you had 4 meds that were taking atleast half health off of all of our meds if not killing them.. when they didnt even ever shoot back. the point i was trying to make about the 2 engis is.. not the 2 engis.. we messed with that strat as well.. it was the fact that you had an engineer that played bridge as his main spot. :/ its not worth even discussing... it just takes the fun away from us, and i dont agree with it. We choose not to play like that ourselves and i guess we will contine to lose against you guys because of it. HAVE FUN... we wont untill we play someone else.
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Fuel
24.130.102.186 |
just wasted 10 minz reading all that :( .. gg and theres no beef on my end not sure what comments ive ever made either but o well..
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BlindSide
67.171.207.148 |
Wow. This is getting ridiculous. I'd encourage everyone to read that 6 page thread about [TDA] & -=ES=- if you haven't already. The majority of clan leaders from Platinum have posted atleast 1 time in there somewhere along the way if you take notice. It's stated more then once that potshotting frequents nearly every match. Whether it escalates to another level, I can't really speak for. What I can do is give you my own personal opinion on the matter. I'm not much of an advocate for ovo, as much as AGT & metal zeppelin want you to believe. I would vote for yes any day of the week for a rule prohibiting ovo. It takes away from the game & gives people a crutch to lean on when they get destroyed.
Zep. Having a medic playing d for 1 minute. Odd..? 60 second flag return. Cheese went back to offy when the flag returned. It only takes 60 seconds to change the course of a match with a 6th defender. I'm glad we don't turtle.
You try & make alot of points but seem to get tongue tied. Basically your points have no substance. You jump around too much. Get over it. We used 2 sg's for one reason. HIGH ASS MOTHERFUCKING PING. Chill out man. Every time we practiced, scrimmed, played a match, we ran 3 soldiers with awesome results. I hate to matter of fact everything, but we actually made 2 sgs work so we didn't change it. Pedro went to yard as engy cause he was trying to take pressure off of our pack soldier. Another stellar move on his behalf imo. I didn't know yard d was illegal in STA. He's a bad ass engy too, he normally doesn't do much gun humping. He likes to roam & throw offenses out of rhythm. Not to mention his sg up-time was more then the other 2 engies participating in the match. What does that say about Pedro ? He's nothing but a smart player in my book. I've seen moves like that a million times in matches. Maps like mulch_trench stick out in my mind. Whatever though. I won't sit here & justify our defensive strat anymore. It was well in-bounds & we would never turtle. 5 D @ all times.
The ovo is just blah to me. I've watched the demos. I'll state again. ovo was very hot from both sides. SilentDark got lit up how many times by your offense ? He never even looked at another one of your offense. td & injex are the 0 captains. I trust their judgement at all times. There ovo against [TTK] was more then justified, turtling on that flag only stoked the fire. And nading injex while capping really got things messy. I'm not gonna put these guys on a leash. They know when enough is enough. If either one of these guys gets fired at or see's someone chasing the other... Expect retaliation. I'd do the same, as much as I hate ovo, one good turn deserves another right?
Just chill out with your name calling bullshit. [TTK] is as innocent as oj. My team acted no better if not worse Monday night and I'm sorry for that. Just stop pointing fingers and check yourself in the process, you are not saints. You have a terrible attitude though. No rationalization within you. You can make all the excuses you want. It's not how you play against us or how we play against you. I've played on pussy teams that wouldn't do certain things that other teams would. They gained an edge in certain aspects, we'd beat them outright with skill & smarts. If we lost, we bagged the excuses and got better.
Another thing I'd like to touch base on is something you mentioned in one of your first anal posts.
"Kar... its gonna suck to be you guys when you fight a clan that will actually do the same back to you :P I expect tons of flames to result from it... but it will make me smile. You had it comin."
Who do you think KAR is ? Are we nobody and your somebody? We've got members ranging from clans like:
[bM] -V- [TDA] 404 [NiX] |HOP| [s2] tmp [DO] [e.] DIVISION [CoS] [SKS] etc.......................
Our members have played for & against some great clans of tfc and faired quite well. It's not like were new to the scene. We've all played huge matches against the best. Some even have wins over the best. You think were strangers to platinum level ovo? Are we strangers to top echelon tfc ? Hardly. KAR, the tag itself is. The people whom make up KAR are not. Herein lies some of the most underrated tfc players ever. Pedrospic, We$ide, gooster, toiletducky, injex, silentdark, outbreak...just to name a few. Most people don't know most of these guys & we're cool with that. We don't want any recognition. We're just having a good time, coming into our own. And we've added a shit load more talent in the last few days. It's nothing but good times for KAR from here on out.
I've never had this much fun in a clan & I only play once a week. We've got some awesome individuals here, guys I enjoy playing with and bullshitting with. We plan on hanging around till the end of tfc, win/lose or draw we don't give a fuck if you beat us or love us. We'll continue to play the same way we do now, whether [TTK] & AGT like it or not. We don't answer to anyone. Direct the rest of your flames towards me if you've got any. Most people don't like me or my attitude and that's the way I want it. I stand behind my clan and the members within it 100% at all times. I'm personally sick of the whiners that frequent these forums all too often. Admit to yourself that your mad about losing. Come to terms with reality & read my posts carefully. If I haven't covered something thoroughly enough for you, pm me in irc like Fuel. Sorry I didn't get back to you, but I work till 2 AM. Happy TFC.
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tentacle
208.137.87.8 |
thx for something to read at school
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[TTK]Metal_Zepp
elin-Rf- 68.98.66.221 |
you reall need to learn to summerize...
god bless the mousewheel
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BlindSide
67.171.207.148 |
Here's your summary. You pm'd me in irc. You said I bad mouthed your clan. No where in the write-up did I bad mouth your clan. I said GG [TTK] considering the massive ovo. Implying both teams were ovo'ing.
[15:56] <[TTK]Metal_Zeppelin^E-Rf-> if you want me to pm you i will
[15:56] <[TTK]Metal_Zeppelin^E-Rf-> you started the whole public flames against MY clan... in the writeup
[15:56] <[TTK]Metal_Zeppelin^E-Rf-> thats not cool
I didn't flame [TTK] till you flamed KAR. Get your shit straight. I don't care about [TTK]. In summary, we won you lost. GG
God Bless your spell checker.
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hawk.
198.82.71.187 |
BS if you're over 5'5" and weigh 110+ lbs. you can take metal in real life.
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[TTK]Metal_Zepp
elin-Rf- 68.98.66.221 |
in all reality i could probably take anyone who plays tfc... but aside from that... stop trying to turn the tables blindside.. ttk is not the bad guys. this is my last post here.. arguing is stupid. gg. hope to play you again on a non-ctf map so it doesnt matter. yea, i suck at spelling cause... well... phonix didnt work?... either way since i have spell check in word its not a life nessesity anymore. as long as i can still outwit ppl.. and wtf hawk... i was like 2 inches shorter than you and a bit thicker.. 5' 11" 168 for anyone who cares.
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King
64.233.196.11 |
HUM WHAT A QUADINK-A-DINK
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bewb-
68.122.236.240 |
i would just hold you back with my reach.
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Fuel
24.130.102.186 |
whats the record for comments?
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hyperlite
68.221.220.169 |
Blindside, do us all a favor, and get a life.
Don't you have anything better to do than write out 500 word replies on a TFC match?
What am I saying? Of course you don't.
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BlindSide
67.171.207.148 |
Do me a favor & get good @ tfc b4 talking shit to me or my clan. Ofcourse I've got better things to do. This is a waste of time & destroying your shitty clans was a close second. 500 words is a mere matter of 10 minutes. Probably shorter then it took you to look up some of the words I used. Until your next reply kiddos...
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BlindSide
67.171.207.148 |
btw Fuel. I found those logs:
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[TTK]Metal_Zepp
elin-Rf- 68.98.66.221 |
fuel shouldnt be saying those kinda things blindside.. hes introuble. he has no more testicles to offer.. i took them all already. he gave them to me as a sexual favor.
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Fuel
24.130.102.186 |
ask yer boys the tone of that convo we were all having a good time there was no hate but interprete it as u will..
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